1 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:02,310 so life on board the international space 2 00:00:05,670 --> 00:00:04,080 station very busy for the astronauts and 3 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,680 there's a lot of things that they can't 4 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:07,279 take with them when they're 5 00:00:11,669 --> 00:00:09,920 working in space a lot of amenities here 6 00:00:13,669 --> 00:00:11,679 on earth that we get to enjoy that they 7 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:13,679 don't get while they're up there among 8 00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:16,720 them doing laundry i mean water is very 9 00:00:19,349 --> 00:00:18,480 precious resource when you're in space 10 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:19,359 and 11 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:21,039 you can't spare water for anything 12 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:22,720 except for the essentials so the 13 00:00:26,710 --> 00:00:25,119 astronauts actually very limited in 14 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:26,720 keeping clean 15 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,960 here to talk today about what we do to 16 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:31,039 help them cope with you know wearing 17 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:33,360 clothes for long periods of time and not 18 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:34,960 being able to clean them i have evelyn 19 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:36,719 orndog she's with the crew and thermal 20 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:38,320 systems division here at the johnson 21 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:40,640 space center she's doing a study called 22 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:42,960 the iva or intravehicular activity 23 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:45,600 clothing study uh evelyn thank you so 24 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:47,120 much for joining me today real quick 25 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:49,039 what's the typical life cycle for these 26 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:50,239 clothes that these astronauts are 27 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:51,760 wearing 28 00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:55,280 well it's supposed to be one mission 29 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:57,360 however this is not exactly the way 30 00:01:02,790 --> 00:00:59,840 things work there's a huge pantry with 31 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:02,800 clothes that are being brought each time 32 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,280 there's a cargo 33 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:08,400 vehicle resupplying so 34 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:11,439 there is a usage rate which we go by 35 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:12,880 that's prescribed for each type of 36 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,520 garment so basically that can be from uh 37 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,920 two days to up to 30 days so that would 38 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,080 be more specific and two days is for 39 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:24,400 undergarments and 30 days would be like 40 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:27,680 four cargo pants okay and what are what 41 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:29,439 are some of the challenges i mean when 42 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:30,960 you're wearing the same clothes for 30 43 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,040 days that's got to get you know a little 44 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:35,040 grimy especially they're exercising two 45 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:36,079 hours every day what are some of the 46 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,360 challenges that you guys are trying to 47 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:39,439 overcome with this new study 48 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:40,640 okay so 49 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:43,840 our study is actually a task in the 50 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:46,079 logistics reduction and repurposing 51 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:47,200 project 52 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:48,479 it's 53 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:51,040 one of five tasks under that project 54 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:52,720 which was funded by the advanced 55 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:55,280 exploration systems program and the 56 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:58,240 whole idea is actually to reduce the app 57 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:01,040 mass of closing and the storage volume 58 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:03,280 of closing uh was 59 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:04,079 you know 60 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:06,000 mostly uh 61 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,960 for 62 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:09,520 future long duration missions 63 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:10,399 okay 64 00:02:14,309 --> 00:02:12,720 and so 65 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:14,319 what are what are some of the 66 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:16,000 um are there different clothes for 67 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,680 different you know activities for the 68 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,280 astronauts on board yeah they are 69 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:22,000 actually uh you have you know a day 70 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:26,239 where sleepwear exercise where so uh and 71 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:27,840 right now uh 72 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:30,800 the uh the cmc contract you have a 73 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:32,640 provision for so many clothes that have 74 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:34,480 been selected uh 75 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,319 from past experience in a shuttle 76 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:40,000 program also based on crew preference 77 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,560 the clothes are using mostly cotton as 78 00:02:46,229 --> 00:02:44,800 the main fiber and 79 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:46,239 there are a lot of reason why we like 80 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:48,319 cotton but 81 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:50,080 there's lots of new technology in the 82 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:51,840 textile industry especially in 83 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:54,720 performance closing and we're looking at 84 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:56,800 commercially of the shelf available 85 00:03:02,470 --> 00:02:59,840 garments and see just from there if we 86 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:02,480 can address those two 87 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:06,480 criteria of a mass reduction and reduced 88 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:08,959 volume and we think we can do that so 89 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:11,360 one of the rational for the study is to 90 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:13,840 look at those close and other attributes 91 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:16,080 like if the antimicrobial 92 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:18,720 agents added to the garments does it 93 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:20,720 help pre-launch the uh 94 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:22,560 period uh the crew member can wear the 95 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:23,920 same garment 96 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:26,319 and i know it's not just you know 97 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:28,080 mass saving stuff like that there's also 98 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,720 kind of a psychological component to to 99 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:32,400 wearing these clothes i mean it's got to 100 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:34,239 feel nice to you know put on a fresh 101 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:35,519 shirt after wearing the same thing for 102 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:37,360 30 days straight are you you guys are 103 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,200 looking at some of those aspects as well 104 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:41,760 correct absolutely actually uh 105 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:44,640 we can provide the crew with the best 106 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:46,720 technical garment and we have the 107 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,239 technology to 108 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:51,120 produce such a garment that requires 109 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:52,959 that meets all our requirements for 110 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:55,920 flammability toxicity 111 00:04:02,149 --> 00:03:57,040 and 112 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:02,159 but if the crew they don't like it 113 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:06,239 what's the point and that's the whole um 114 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:07,920 challenge about 115 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,439 you know apparel 116 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,760 because for long duration mission 117 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,519 whatever they will take with them is 118 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:15,200 what they have for the 119 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:16,799 even right now on the space station it's 120 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,320 more like an expedition like going to 121 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:20,160 the everest and coming back 122 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:21,840 it's short duration but you're talking 123 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:23,520 like a three-year mission you're taking 124 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,600 your entire wardrobe with you and you 125 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,440 live with it and it's part of your image 126 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:29,600 and everything so we are very careful 127 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:32,240 about getting that perception uh from 128 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:34,639 the crew and other test subjects we uh 129 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,759 also 130 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:37,759 had participate in similar studies on 131 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:39,919 the ground so this like so many things 132 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:41,759 on station getting us ready for those 133 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:43,840 next step missions the missions to mars 134 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:45,919 things like that yes yeah the the 135 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:49,280 ultimate goal is to design a wardrobe 136 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:51,680 for long duration manned missions 137 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:54,240 and how does the crew let you know kind 138 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:55,440 of what they're thinking how they're 139 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,040 feeling on orbit are they giving you 140 00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:59,520 direct feedback and no 141 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:00,720 we 142 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:06,400 from crew debrief some comments from 143 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:08,840 past missions so before we started the 144 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:13,120 study we gathered that information 145 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:14,880 working 146 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:15,840 with 147 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:17,919 folks in sf 148 00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:24,790 this is what our study addresses is the 149 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:28,320 perception of the crew of the 150 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:31,120 people who wear the clothes and 151 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,160 what's 152 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:34,479 what is of the utmost importance to us 153 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:37,199 in the study is that 154 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:39,039 we haven't done already ground steady 155 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:41,919 with 80 participants and the crew will 156 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:44,320 wear the clothes uh at least the 157 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:46,160 exercise clothes during their bdc 158 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:48,000 baselight they tackle collection so they 159 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:49,440 have a chance to try the clothes while 160 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:51,680 they exercise here before the mission or 161 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:54,160 after the mission and then of course 162 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:56,960 there's the uh experiment we have on 163 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:00,880 orbit and the crew is the only uh group 164 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:02,960 that can tell us if there's a difference 165 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:05,199 in perception of the garment in 166 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:07,759 microgravity versus in earth's gravity 167 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:09,680 that's very important because they go 168 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,080 through so many physiological changes we 169 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:14,240 need to understand we know there is uh 170 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,560 and the skin sensitivity is a bit 171 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:19,120 exacerbated so we need to understand if 172 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:20,720 something that feels would feel 173 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:22,479 comfortable here may not feel as 174 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:25,680 comfortable uh and in the space station 175 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:28,160 so that's why they're very important 176 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:30,720 group and we're very excited about that 177 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:32,880 experiment all right yeah and a lot of 178 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:34,639 things you don't normally think about 179 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:36,639 you can find out in space happens with 180 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:38,240 every experiment we do it seems to 181 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:39,840 happen with everything we do even you 182 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,240 know developing some space age duds for 183 00:06:46,150 --> 00:06:44,560 our astronauts yes all right well again 184 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:46,160 evelyn orndoff with the chrome thermal 185 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:47,759 systems division here at the johnson 186 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:50,080 space center talking about iva clothing 187 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:51,520 thanks so much for joining us and 188 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:53,039 hopefully we'll see some snazzy duds in